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Ken Garff Nissan of Orem

Orem, UT

4.5
322 Reviews

285 W. University Parkway

Orem, UT

84058

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January 30, 2011

Ken Garff Nissan in Orem, Utah tried the old "Bait and Switch" and then Brantley was EXTREMELY RUDE when we asked why we weren't getting the deal that we discussed on the phone AND that they emailed t More

by melissahruban
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No
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Brantley Reade
January 30, 2011

Very friendly staff makes you feel comfortable the whole way through. They really do back you up. We will be returning for many years to come. Thanks Ken Garff. The other dealerships we visited bluntly More

by JeremyG
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Brian Wolff
January 21, 2011

I took my car in to this dealer for some simple warranty service. My dome light and reading lights were not working anymore. I thought, well it's under warranty so I'll just take it in and have them fix it. More

by smokeybearvii
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Jan 21, 2011 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

My name is Parker I am the Service Manager. I am so sorry to hear about your recent experience. That is not a typical experience here at Ken Garff Nissan. I apoligize sincerley. I would like to try and resolve this and find out what happened and how I can make this right. Please respond back or email me directly or call me please. parkero@kengarff.com 801-609-1318. I assure you that I will get to the bottom of this and make sure that this is taken care of. Thank you

Jan 26, 2011 -

smokeybearvii responded

Parker, thanks for your message, however I wrote you an email as you asked, and I never heard back from you. Sadly it appears my review was and is truthful regarding the service dept at KG Nissan Orem. I had some service done in Bountiful today, and they were $75 less than what you guys quoted me at. Looks like I'll be taking my Nissan there from now on, inspite of the drive.

January 17, 2011

I want to thank the staff at Ken Garff Orem for the wonderful buying experience, they are one of the best dealerships I have had to deal with. My wife did not want to get a new car because of past expe More

by Gregkelcey
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Bryan Knight, Kaifah
December 11, 2010

Worst experience with a car dealer ever! First, we had to put $20 of our own money for gas to test drive the vehicle. Spent hours at the dealership on two separate occassions because the salesman would w More

by jessdave
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Cody, Marquis
December 10, 2010

Oh boy, where do I begin?! I know this is long, but it is definitely worth reading. I don't feel right even giving this dealership a 1 rating. We have dealt with KG in Riverdale many times, and it was a grea More

by cash88
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Brian Wagstaff
December 08, 2010

To the guys at KG Orem. Thanks a ton! You all did a great job helping my wife and I with a great purchasing experience. It's not the first car we have purchased from you guys and it will not be the last. B W More

by Mckenzy
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Tyler, B Wolf, Jake, Brantly, and Aaron
December 07, 2010

This was the best experience we have ever had purchasing a new vehicle. The guys at the dealership made us feel at home, did not pressure us, and found my wife the exact vehicle she wanted. Our experience w More

by snyder55
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Tyler Slade, Brian Wolfe, Aaron Null
October 26, 2010

Hi my name is chris. I went to this dealership for one purpose, to find a car with low miles that I could keep out of the shop. I dont know very much about cars but what I did know is that my 2001 jeep ha More

by Jcishot6
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Jake and Shawn Isom
October 19, 2010

I was lied to many times. I was screwed over with the price. The dealership lied to wells fargo and told them i made More than i really do to not get me a better interest rate but to get me qualified wit More

by Gjnewt
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Brantley
Oct 26, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

My name is Tyler, I am the GM of the store. I will be glad to meet with you and go over your concerns. Please call me at the store so we can find a way to make you happy! I am sorry for your experience and want to fix it. 801-225-1300

Oct 27, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

I think you can feel my frustration. I called once to complain about the $4,000 i dumped down the drain and thought there was a mistake on the contract. And nope they admitted it was the same money as if i was to keep it and instead they mailed it back to me claiming it was the "rebates" i got in my deal. A joke. I ow way more than my rogue is worth, i have pretty much the lowest model and was charged for really the highest model, with a damn 11% from Nissan financial... come on now. I have a 700 credit score and i got a 11% ? I don't know how i fell for it all. I"m really the fool here. I'm highly doubtful you'll fix anything, if you have something in mind, please tell me here.

Nov 01, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

That's kind of what i was expecting. :)

Nov 01, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Again, if you really have something in mind that you can do to fix my situation, please tell me here in this post. If you having anything, thats when i'll call.

Nov 01, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

I would like to be able to look at the details of your deal to see exactly what happened from our side. Obviously Brantley was involved, but I would also like to see who from our finance department was involved as well to find out about the finance package that was arranged for you. To tell you exactly what I can do for you without being able to see all the facts of your deal is very hard to do, but hopefully by our continued conversation, you can see that we are interested in looking into this and trying to make it better.

Nov 02, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Thank you for your reply, i really do appreciate it. Can i give you a contract number? or my name? or what do you need to look it up? I do not remember the finance guy's name, stocky guy dark hair. Some more details, I bought 2 cars, a cube and a rogue. I originally was getting a Titan and was called back saying i cannot quality for the Titan and I'll need a co-signer. So i was forced into the rogue. Brantly told me at the time of the deal that he can only do that deal That day because his manager was not working that day and he would get in trouble for giving such a good deal (complete lie). Then after he called me back on the Titan saying no go. He said he would give us a check to help with our payments for 1 year to keep our payments what we need to be equal to the deal of leasing the cube in the "Buy a titan haul a cube away" deal. The rebates there would give us the check money and the dealership would send the check. He then told us the trade in value for our Impala was equal to what we owed on it. So we can trade that for the rogue, and traded our VW beetle for the cube (Also worth what we owed). But on the rogue contract it reads the amount owed on the Impala was $13k -- $4k More than what was really owed on it. and that trade-in value was $9k -- So you see, now on the contract I ow you guys $4k for the balance. So Then i get a check in the mail for under $4 which i believed to be the "rebate" check you guys offered me in the deal to help with my payments. Then i noticed the contract read what i stated above. I was completely fooled. My $4k downpayment was not a downpayment, it didn't go towards the car like I saved it for. It went to pay off the balance on the contract of $13k when the car's real balance was only $9k. So i called to ask about that and Brantly said they mailed me a check for that balance already. I was fooled big time, i feel so stupid for falling for this, Brantly successfully made me feel like a complete idiot. He admitted it would have been the same thing if i kept the $4k or gave it to them, it was the same money.... no "rebate" or "deal" was really in this, just a misuse of my money and trickery. If my $4k really went to my rogue I might not be so angry about all of this, not to mention the interest rates and both cars on my credit. But even then the rogue would still be way over priced because i was rushed into the rogue from the titan failing to come true.... This contract was rushed by me by the same finance guy and Brantly, as i was called back in to bring the Titan back and take the rogue early one morning. So i did... and was very very rushed, the finance guy even said "since you know all of this just hurry and sign here and we can get you out of here" And then he continued to say "We told Wells Fargo you make $80k so if they call and ask you, tell them that you do" That is me and my girlfriends combined income - we are not married and they knew that. They pulled her credit too but put BOTH cars on my credit. The cube financed with Wells Fargo at 9% and the Rogue Financed with Nissan Financial at + %11. I left my VW Beetle at your dealership and the %3.2 interest rate behind, i regret this big time. I should of bought used and stayed in our payment range, by now I'd have my little family in a home and have a yard for my son to play in. But no, that has to wait now. I hope those details help a little. I have my contracts still and everything. I cannot see a contract # or anything but if you can direct me to that i can give it to you to look up. Or my full name? Please let me know the information you need. Thanks

Nov 02, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

(I re-posted this reply to fix some typo's and add more details.) Thank you for your reply, i really do appreciate it. Can i give you a contract number? or my name? or what do you need to look it up? I do not remember the finance guy's name, stocky guy dark hair. Here are some more details for you, I bought 2 cars, a cube and a rogue. I originally was getting a Titan and was called back saying I cannot quality for the Titan and I'll need a co-signer. I could not get a co-signer after that was said to me -- so i was forced into the rogue. Brantly told me at the time of the Titan and Cube deal that he can only do the deal he is offering us That day and Only that day -- because his manager was off that day and he would get in trouble for giving such a good deal (complete lie). He said he would rather ask for forgiveness than ask for your permission. Then after he called me back on the Titan saying i do not quality and its a no go. He said he would give us a check to help with our payments for 1 year, to keep our payments what we could afford and this would be from the rebate they are currently offering with the "buy a titan haul a cube away" promotion. The rebates given there would be applied to our deal in that check to help our payments. He then told us the trade in value for our Impala was equal to what we owed on it. So we can trade that for the rogue, and traded our VW beetle for the cube (Also worth what we owed). But on the rogue contract it reads the amount owed on the Impala was $13k -- $4k More than what was really owed on it. and that trade-in value was $9k -- So you see, now on the contract I ow you guys $4k for the balance. So Then i get a check in the mail for under $4 which i believed to be the "rebate" check you guys offered me in the deal to help with my payments. Then i noticed the contract read what i stated above. I was completely fooled. My $4k down-payment was not a down-payment, it didn't go towards the car like I saved it for. It went to pay off the balance on the contract of $13k when the car's real balance was only $9k. So i called to ask about that and Brantly said they mailed me a check for that balance already. I was fooled big time, i feel so stupid for falling for this, Brantly successfully made me feel like a complete idiot. He admitted it would have been the same thing if i kept the $4k or gave it to them, it was the same money.... no "rebate" or "deal" was really in this, just a misuse of my money and trickery. So this rebate check you guys were mailing me to assist in my payments for year was a completely lie. Do the math, the check i got was $3990, Which the finance guy and Brantly both said to put that away in savings, take out what you need each month to help your payment only be $250. So on my rogue, a payment of $500 (ridiculous i know), Everymonth i take $250 out of savings and put it into checkings then make the car payments -- So i only pay $250. And for the Cube which has a payment of $381, we move $131 out of savings to make that payment $250. Now we do the real math -- $250 x 12 = $3000 $131 x 12 = $1572 $3000 + $1572 = $4572 My $4000 downpayment should have gone to my car. I should have gotten at least $4572 to help with our payments for a year, not $3990. If my $4k really went to my rogue I might not be so angry about all of this, not to mention the interest rates and both cars on my credit. But even then the rogue would still be way over priced because i was rushed into the rogue from the titan failing to come true.... This contract was rushed by me by the same finance guy and Brantly, as i was called back in to bring the Titan back and take the rogue early one morning. So i did... and was very very rushed, the finance guy even said "since you know all of this just hurry and sign here and we can get you out of here" And then he continued to say "We told Wells Fargo you make $80k so if they call and ask you, tell them that you do" That is me and my girlfriends combined income - we are not married nor did we co-sign on this deal and they knew that. They pulled her credit too but put BOTH cars on my credit. The cube financed with Wells Fargo at 9% and the Rogue Financed with Nissan Financial at + %11. I left my VW Beetle at your dealership and the %3.2 interest rate behind, i regret this big time. I should of bought used and stayed in our payment range, by now I'd have my little family in a home and have a yard for my son to play in. But no, that has to wait now. I hope those details help a little. I have my contracts still and everything. I cannot see a contract # or anything but if you can direct me to that i can give it to you to look up. Or my full name? Please let me know the information you need. Thank

Nov 04, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

Thanks for submitting the additional info for our review. The easiest way for me to dig on my side is your full name. Thanks

Nov 04, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Nathan G. Christensen

Nov 08, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Please, keep me updated.

Nov 08, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

Hi Nathan, I'm waiting for Jake to get back. (He was your finance manager) That way I can get the story on the financing end. I believe he will be back in the office on Thursady.

Nov 11, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Alright, I'll be looking forward to a reply.

Nov 15, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Any update?

Nov 18, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

la di da...

Nov 22, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Two weeks from your last reply, any update at all?

Nov 22, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

Hi Nathan. Sorry it has been so long since our last contact. So let me ask a question of you, obviously you feel that you have not been treated well from the beginning of the deal and more especially feel like aspects of the deal were not clearly explained to you. Having said this, and knowing that we are now 7 months down the road and can't just simply make things go back to the way they were, what would be a reasonable solution as to where we sit today that may not make you feel 100% better about what has happened, but know that we do care about your experience and would like to turn this into some kind of a positive? There are options that we can offer like discounted services for your Rogue. We can look at trying to help you refinance the Rogue? Possibly take a look at trying a Titan again? Would you simply like these issues to be addressed with those involved in order to aviod these issues with others? What would be something that you would accept as a good faith offering from us?

Nov 24, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

No worries on the reply, I know you are busy and this is a past deal you are only trying to make better, which I appreciate. I am not entirely sure how to answer your question(s). I do not thing discounted services will really help the situation as the real problem is the 11% interest and the $500 a month price tag, and me losing a misguided $4k down the drain. If my down payment actually went to the car they payments would be quite a bit less, and a lower interest rate for that matter -- On that note I don't see how the refinance would help as you were only able to get me 11% from Nissan Financial which is horrendous. And apparently that was because the Cube was already on my credit at 9% and that's because your finance manager lied about my income to Wells Fargo. My previous car i had no problem getting 3.2% and nothings changed on my credit since, its only gotten better since then. I would love a Titan, but why would it work this time if it didn't last time, i had to return it. If i was to trade in my rogue i would lose money cause i ow way more than its worth because in my research it was way over priced. I don't logically see how any of those options would work. Since the Rogue's title is still owned by Nissan then you shouldn't lose any money on it, but I don't want an extra $7,000 to flow over to a Titan, even a used Titan that would be foolish and i already feel like a big fool with this whole deal. So I just don't know yet.... Take my rogue back for what i ow, I'd be happy, then i would get a used Titan for a cheaper payment.

Dec 01, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

That's the hardest thing of this deal, I feel like a complete and utter Fool, and i don't want to be fooled into something else. Even when i went to get the Cube serviced down there I sat and waited at the counter for 15 min while 75% of your staff watched the world cup. Then i was told i can just leave cause it was the 'first' service and that one's free. I don't necessarily want my credit pulled another 20 times like it was for this first deal. And in result to just have my income lied about, which you'd think would be a lie that would give me better interest rates. I don't know, the whole thing makes me angry that i am such a fool. I like that you are acting interested to make this right, but I do not think there's anything you will really do. A 'good faith' offering is hard for me to trust at this point in my relationship with Ken Garff, if you understand what I mean. I do think it'll have to be a pretty good offer to turn this into a positive.

Dec 06, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

hi.

Dec 08, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

My point proved?

Dec 08, 2010 -

Ken Garff Nissan of Orem responded

I do understand your concern over a good faith offering. I would like to also address a couple of the things you brought up. I definately realize that the root of the problem at this point in your eyes is the terms of financing (rate / payment) that you have on the Rogue. One of the things that you mentioned is that the title is owned by Nissan, which is correct. NMAC holds the title to the car, which is independent of our dealership. If we still had some stake in the ownership of the vehicle it might make it a little easier to "not lose any money on it" in taking it back, however, once the bank takes ownership, we are no longer involved in that. Now this is not to say that we couldn't help minimize the hit in trading it in to try and help the situation, but just so there is an understanding that we are 2 totally different entities. If we were to look at changing vehicles again, there would obviously be a process that would involve the pulling of credit and such, which it sounds like you aren't very excited about as well. Nathan, I sincerely would like to try and do something here that could make this situation better, however, because of the dynamics involved this is very difficult which I think we both can agree on. I understand that at this point we may not be able to salvage the experience and thus, the review. Hopefully again, by at least contacting you and trying to see if there is in fact something that will work, you may know that we are committed to providing high quality customer service. You did not experience that and that is disappointing to us.

Dec 10, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Thanks for your reply again. I only bring up the credit thing because last time I was there it seemed my credit got dinged a ton of times from when my credit was pulled. We all know the more its its pulled and dinged like that the worse it is for your score. I lost that $4k to no where, with being led it was a down payment to my rogue. I know you are not gonna just simply make up for that money, but if that would be taken into consideration if I was to change vehicles again and on top of the trade-in hit. That would be nice. You probably have a pretty good idea what my Rogue is worth, how much money would i be out if i did this? I guess you can say this is a test question. :) And what type of vehicle could i get into to get my payment reasonable? Are those questions answerable? Thanks again for the reply's and hanging on with me here... The concern put into this is appreciated.

Dec 22, 2010 -

Gjnewt responded

Following up.

Jan 07, 2011 -

Gjnewt responded

So dumb. I am told its completely illegal to tell a bank that a customer makes more than they do in the loan application. Just like your finance guy told Wells Fargo i make double what i actually do. You stole my $4k, lied so many times. Take the trade in with no hit back to me, or pay me the $4000 that was promised in my rebate in the deal. That will fix this.

May 03, 2011 -

Gjnewt responded

I'm still so pissed at this deal. I have a contract signed by Brantley that he hand wrote that stats in a years time you will fix our hideous interest rates to meet our needs that we requested a year ago by finding us refinance or making the situation work. And i know that means if we came in to do that, you'd take our new cars and gives us used old cars with the same interest rates to lower our payments... some how you'd F us over again. I just cannot believe i was such a fool. I've made it a goal to tell at least 1 new person a day not to visit your location. I'm getting fucked over by a 11% interest when my score is 700+ ... and cant really do anything about it until i can pay off my way over priced car to what its worth. ;blkajsd;lkfjas;ldfj

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